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Junior Job Hunter: can I get back on track?

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In the first of his "Junior Job Hunter" series, our new columnist tells us about his plight in the Aussie employment market since he left London last year.

Two years ago I was working in a meagre back-office banking role in a small Australian city. Having been travelling and working in London the year before, I had two choices: return to London to hopefully work for an international bank and try to extend my UK visa; or move to Sydney where I was being considered for a job in financial planning.

I decided to take the risk and returned to London. Despite the onset of the credit-crunch, I secured employment with a top-tier UK bank as a data analyst. I was ecstatic to be back and to be working with a large organisation, albeit only in a temporary position. Sadly the next six months didn’t exactly pan out as anticipated.

The position was not challenging or rewarding and I realised that (despite my relative inexperience) the bank “had issues”. My visa expired and couldn’t be renewed. The easier option would be to return to Australia, but I still wanted to travel. My career was effectively shelved as I chased sun and snow for the rest of 2008.

In early 2009, it became clear that I should return home. I needed to build my career, but knew that the market would be extremely tough. So with a challenging yet rewarding 18 months behind me, I started looking for work in Australia. I applied to the major corporate banks and investment firms’ graduate programs for 2010.

However, there was a constant stumbling block: I wasn’t a fresh graduate. I kept thinking ‘why do major banks invest heavily and extensively train fresh-faced graduates with no real experience, only to see them say farewell in a few years when they move overseas? What happened to valuing stability’?

I’m still young, with strong university results and a background in banking. More importantly, having satisfied my travel bug, I’m now ready to commit to a firm for the long term. Surely I’m a more secure return for their investment?

The result, while not unexpected, still hurt. I didn’t even make it to the interview stage in the months that followed my return home. It seemed my decision to leave for bigger opportunities and more experience had backfired.

Returning to my regional home city after the dizzying experiences of the outside world, is a difficult pill to swallow and I know that I need to consider other options to get my career on track. Retrain? Am I too old? I’m only 26!

Studying accounting, a sector that is resilient in the current economy, was suggested. But is a CA/CPFA really worth it? Ideally, I am seeking an employer who could assist financing further study, but I don’t hold out much hope. Plus by the time I finish will I have foregone so much potential employment income and experience that perhaps I’ll end up further behind in the career race?

From my recent applications, it seems obvious most banks focus initially on results and school reputation. I looked into short accounting courses at TAFE, but felt I need something more reputable. I looked into KAPLAN’s Masters of Applied Finance, but was unexpectedly warned off by students and comments on websites about the course content. Perhaps an MBA? But I’d have to finance it myself and having only just left Kevin Rudd’s army of unemployed, perhaps that’s not such a good idea.

I am considering study in a different path: public-policy analysis. But while the course looks fantastic and is with a highly reputable American college in Australia, it’s not investment banking and will I really want to do full-time study for a whole year?

I still haven’t decided. The decision I made two years ago didn’t work out as expected. But that’s life. So what are my options now? Network like crazy! I have sent my CV to all colleagues in any field I’m remotely interested in. However, the typical response has been “ANZ has cut 250 staff recently”.

I’ve recently applied to recruitment agencies to see if they could find anything entry-level. This has worked in at least letting me earn an income again. It’s nowhere near where I wanted to be when I left Australia, but it’s a start.

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global bank grad '10, Trading,  Tue 21 Jul 09

If you couldn't get a graduate job at a large bank back when you graduated during the boom times, what hope do you have now in the toughest financial services graduate market in decades?

Banks want the top of the bunch of graduating university students, they need young highly intelligent people in the industry as a whole otherwise in a few years when things pick up there will be nobody to step into the associate/VP level positions resulting in a massive skills shortage.

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Daryl Dump, Student,  Tue 21 Jul 09

Doesn't efinancial careers have any positions advertised that you could fill?

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N, Debt / Fixed Income,  Wed 22 Jul 09

Mate, sorry to hear your bad news.  A few pointers:

I'm surprised that firms overlook you due to experience.  In fact, I too am studying whilst working in a Front Office role (for which I’m truly grateful in this market) and have found that many of the BB IBs "require" some level of work experience – no  matter how sophisticated. 

*Steer clear of Kaplan Applied Finance;
*Try the CFA - Level 1 exam in December, 2009;
*Develop your financial modelling skills;
*Prep-up and ace the psychometric testing;
*How reputable was your undergrad degree?  If not top-tier, enrol in a top Master's Programme;
*Put together a fantastic job application and CV

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M. Stockton, Corporate Banking,  Wed 22 Jul 09

To look at your experiences and education, it is a little late in life to be applying for graduate positions. Graduate positions are only open to those who have graduated within two years of the intake they are applying for. Looking into that beforehand would have saved you some time and heartache. Your applications would not have even been read.

Further education would definitely not go astray. As for TAFE, it is not going to be of any value to you in chasing your goal of working in investment banking. It will only keep you at home in your regional city. A Masters is always a good option. Particularly in times like these where the banking sector will be looking for people with experience and education to hit the ground running once things pick up again (ie not graduates). Now is probably the best time to be preparing yourself for that. But no one will pay that for you. Not at present.

Build some stability in your career. There's nothing wrong with having searched for greener pastures. Particularly whilst you're young. Good employers will respect that ambition. Now is the time to position yourself for the next wave of opportunities. They will come. Make sure you're rea

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Innovation Officer, Operations,  Wed 22 Jul 09

global bank grad - I agree with your sentiments that the banks want all the top grads, but many of them are also looking for people with more life experience who when the good times roll back again don't leave and want to go and 'find themselves' travelling around the world.
Being a good grad, and having life experience are two seperate things and from my experience in the sector I've found that the true talent has a combination of both.

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global bank grad '10, Trading,  Wed 22 Jul 09

Innovation Officer,

I spent several years travelling the world before returning to graduate near the top of my class at a leading university.  I have no doubt that this is a major part of why I was hired.  My point is that you can have all the 'life experience' in the world but if you don't have a very good GPA from a group of 8 university, you have little to no chance.

regards

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N, Debt / Fixed Income,  Thu 23 Jul 09

I went to a G8 University. HRM for grad programmes - does this really  matter?

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Old timer, Asset Management,  Thu 23 Jul 09

I am not sure why people dislike Kaplan masters??  The content is meant for you to do additional research. Last year, I completed the grad dip app fin through finsia (now Kaplan) and learnt a lot. I am now doing the Kaplan masters.  The qual is still highly regarded by the industry.  Last year my friend finished the grad cert in app fin and got recruited in portfolio management with a major fund manager and hasn't looked back.

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benalcock,  Thu 23 Jul 09

Global bank grad, he never said he couldn't get in when he first graduated in the boom times, im pretty sure he's saying he chose to travel rather than follow the grad path after first leaving uni.

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Market professional, Equities,  Thu 23 Jul 09

Global Bank Grad
You have an inflated opinion of your own worth to your employer. rest assured, despite the rhetoric you may have been fed by HR, most of your colleagues are frustrated by the fact that you have no experience in what you are doing, but seem to think that you are something special. They see a new crop of grads every year and most of them are as cocky as you. University grades mean zero in the real world. Why have you got so much time to post on this site? Doesnt someone in your team need a coffee?

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